Watchmen

[Pfisiar]

There are numerous trailers floating around for the movie based on Alan Moore's fantastic book. Check youtube people.

So, does anyone have any opinion on that?

Honestly, I have hopes it will be good.

[Fonzy]

I am very excited for this movie.

However, the early part of the year is usually where Hollywood dumps movies they expect to tank. Therefore, I'm slightly less than optimistic about the film. However, they could just be figuring it to tank because it's got more of a cult following and hasn't had any real mainstream success.

[Tidal Kraken]

It looks alright I guess. Rorschach's voice sounds different than I imagined but other than that I have no complaints so far.

[Shadow]

I'm worried that it'll be ÷÷÷÷ed up. In my mind I figure that it'll either be awesome or shitty. No middle ground. Seems to be the way for most comic book movies.

[Jabby]

I am very excited for it. Have they settled the stuff with Fox, though? Because I was looking at the Facebook page for Watchmen, and they had a country select for some stupid feature, but they didn't have an American flag...

[Hallways of Always]

Rated R for Manhattan Dong.

I'm looking forward to it with very cautious optimism. The hype is so ridiculous that I'm thinking a lot of people will be disappointed. What is going to make this movie for me is if they show the part where Rorschach throws that dead dog at that pedo. That was awesome.

[Jabby]

I'm waiting on Manhattan-Silk Spectre action.

[Pfisiar]

Rated R for Manhattan Dong.

I'm looking forward to it with very cautious optimism. The hype is so ridiculous that I'm thinking a lot of people will be disappointed. What is going to make this movie for me is if they show the part where Rorschach throws that dead dog at that pedo. That was awesome.
And the attempted rape scene. Don't forget that.

I love the romance between Silk Specter II and Nite Owl II. It's realistic and not overly sentimental.

January and February is where they send films to die. March is about when the spring season begins which leads into the summer season.

[LegendShark]

I'm very excited for it, I just don't know how they'll handle the ending.

I would be surprised if they kept it as is, because it is very anticlimactic and would annoy most mainstream movie-goers.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

I'm interested as well... Can't wait to get to the theatre to watch the men

[mrs_bun]

The preview looks possibly cheesy.

[LegendShark]

The preview looks possibly cheesy.

Right but if you watch the preview, they put absolutely everything from the comic that could make it look like a stupid action movie into the preview. And it was only like 3 minutes long.

Which means it most likely won't be a stupid action movie!

[mrs_bun]

I'm thinking shoot em up meets hellboy 2, here.

[Shadow]

I'm thinking shoot em up meets hellboy 2, here.
Don't insult it before it comes out. :(

[Pfisiar]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJkcUjaSlZI

This is the japanese trailer. Looks better than the original trailer..

[mrs_bun]

Don't insult it before it comes out. :(

Not insulting, just prepared for cheese. I like to be pleasantly surprised.

[Shadow]

It's got that hot chick people like in it. :V

[mrs_bun]

Sometimes that ruins everything, Ben. :P

[Shadow]

She has sex with some dude in it though. :V

[mrs_bun]

Hello.

[Fonzy]

It's got that hot chick people like in it. :V

Which one?

[Shadow]

Which one?
huh, ÷÷÷÷ if I know her name.

[Jenius]

It's got that hot chick people like in it. :V

That basically describes anyone with tits.

[mrs_bun]

Hey, beautiful unique snowflake over here.

[Shadow]

http://www.hollywoodchicago.com/uploaded_images/watchmen_large.jpg

[Fonzy]

huh, ÷÷÷÷ if I know her name.

Where else might I have seen her work?

Alternatively, which character in Watchmen. I'll look it up on IMDB.

[Shadow]

Where else might I have seen her work?

Alternatively, which character in Watchmen. I'll look it up on IMDB.
Being a teenager I have seen her boobs in Harold and Kumar before.

[mrs_bun]

Oh, Malin Akerman.

[Jenius]

Oh, tits.

Fixed that for you.

[mrs_bun]

She is cute.

[Shadow]

I'd take her to dinner and a movie. :V

[mrs_bun]

Kevin Costner is a wincefest in an interview.

[Shadow]

holy shit, Terry Gilliam's cast ÷÷÷÷ing blows. Kevin Costner? Are you serious?

Greengrass' is pretty good, but I'm boners for Ron Perlman and Hilary Swank and Joaquin Phoenix aren't bad.
I really like Terry Gilliam but I just sad faced at that too. :(

[mrs_bun]

Bull Durham was good, so was Mr Brooks.

[Shadow]

Ron Pearlman makes me lol, just sayin'.

[mrs_bun]

Oh okay, that makes sense. Most actorectors are bad bad.

[Shadow]

÷÷÷÷ you the man has a ton of talent and it's too bad he's typecast into these brutish idiot roles and/or prosthetic roles.

Still, I thought Hellboy 2 was pretty meh.
I know it's my fault hollywood decides what I see him in.

[mrs_bun]

Ron Perlman is amazing, though, I can confirm. Interested in Bunraku.

[Pfisiar]

Considering the fact that Dan Dreiberg is a broken-down middle-aged costumed adventurer, I think Kevin Costner could play him well. But I'm glad the 2009 movie went with unknowns for the most part. It will be less distracting

÷÷÷÷ Ron Pearlman. Gary Busey would have been god damn perfect as the Commedian.

[Shadow]

Gary Busey is perfect as nobody.

I think Jude Law could be gayer than the guy that is Ozymandias now.

[mrs_bun]

Why oblig?

[Pfisiar]

Kevin Costner circa 2001 could. Kevin Costner circa 1991 would be terrible.

I agree with the unknowns, though (except for Crudup, but he's playing a primarily CGI part anyway so).


The Comedian is crazy for a reason. Gary Busey is just crazy.



u srs
Heh. Honestly, I think Terry Gilliam was just ÷÷÷÷ing around. Or at least, I'd hope so.

[Shadow]

Heh. Honestly, I think Terry Gilliam was just ÷÷÷÷ing around. Or at least, I'd hope so.
If that was the case he would have just cast midgets.

[Pfisiar]

Watchmen, as played by the cast of Willow!

[Shadow]

And Time Bandits, mother ÷÷÷÷a.

[Pfisiar]

Don't forget Baron Munchausen.

[Shadow]

Don't forget Baron Munchausen.
The Midgets are less interesting in that though.

[mrs_bun]

Short people! :mad:

[Pfisiar]

The Midgets are less interesting in that though.
I've not seen Time Bandits, so I can't make any comment on that.

[Shadow]

I've not seen Time Bandits, so I can't make any comment on that.
If you like Midgets you have to see it. There are tones in that.

[Kant]

ROBIN WILLIAMS AS RORSCHACH

No one picked that up?

[Kant]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e454b2i4C-I

[Fonzy]

Jeffrey Dean Morgan as the Comedian? I swear to god I thought that was Robert Downey Jr.

[LegendShark]

I really dislike the woman playing Silk Spectre.

[Shadow]

I really dislike the woman playing Silk Spectre.

Malin Akerman

[Cara]

I really dislike the woman playing Silk Spectre.

I really dislike both of the Silk Spectres.

[Van]

Rorschach sounds too...stereotypical.

I mean, I had no idea what he was supposed to sound like. But thinking about the guy under that mask, I can't imagine him sounding like some gruff PI. I least imagine some sort of odd quality to his voice, even if he really was intended to sound like a deep voiced smoker.

They'll probably have his voice change to some snivel-y emo-teen thing once the mask is off, completely disregarding the fact that the mask does not change voices :V

[Cara]

To be honest, his voice isn't monotonius enough.

[Cara]

Just saw a trailer. His voice is the same, just more whispery with the mask off.

[Van]

To be honest, his voice isn't monotonius enough.
Yeah, maybe that's it. There needs to be less feeling.
Just saw a trailer. His voice is the same, just more whispery with the mask off.Hmm, that makes sense. Loss of confidence with the mask and all, plus his whole situation during the time he's maskless.

[Fonzy]

I have to agree. I hate the sterotypical tough-guy superhero voice, a la Christian Bale's Batman. Yes, we get it, you're a badass. You don't have to pretend you just swallowed a wad of sandpaper.

[LegendShark]

Eh, I read it after I saw the first trailer, so I wouldn't really know what he would have sounded like if I hadn't already heard "his" voice.

[BlaineTog]

I didn't much care for Watchmen, though I feel as if I might like more it once the Alan Moore bullshit is skimmed off the top, such as what will inevitably happen in the movie.

[Fonzy]

I didn't much care for Watchmen, though I feel as if I might like more it once the Alan Moore bullshit is skimmed off the top, such as what will inevitably happen in the movie.

You mean the political agendas? I was thinking about as I reread the comic recently and I think it's probably far enough removed from the events that no one would give a shit anyhow. I mean, Reagan is dead, the Cold War ended 20 years ago, etc., etc. Moore could rewrite the story as he originally wanted to write it (he said he set it in an alternate timeline to distract people from his political agendas) these days an nobody would probably blink an eye.

[BlaineTog]

You mean the political agendas? I was thinking about as I reread the comic recently and I think it's probably far enough removed from the events that no one would give a shit anyhow. I mean, Reagan is dead, the Cold War ended 20 years ago, etc., etc. Moore could rewrite the story as he originally wanted to write it (he said he set it in an alternate timeline to distract people from his political agendas) these days an nobody would probably blink an eye.No, I was more referring to the crap like the distrating, meaningless pirate interludes which I'm sure have all sorts of redundant, thematic significance but basically amount to nothing more than Alan Moore dancing around the campfire naked and laughing about his own cleverness in slowing down and obfuscating the book.

[Fonzy]

No, I was more referring to the crap like the distrating, meaningless pirate interludes which I'm sure have all sorts of redundant, thematic significance but basically amount to nothing more than Alan Moore dancing around the campfire naked and laughing about his own cleverness in slowing down and obfuscating the book.

Oh. Yeah they're releasing that separately.

[LegendShark]

No, I was more referring to the crap like the distrating, meaningless pirate interludes which I'm sure have all sorts of redundant, thematic significance but basically amount to nothing more than Alan Moore dancing around the campfire naked and laughing about his own cleverness in slowing down and obfuscating the book.

You know I sort of liked that part in the beginning but by the second time they cut to that black kid and the newsman I was like OH FUCK IS THIS UNECESSARY.

[Fonzy]

You know I sort of liked that part in the beginning but by the second time they cut to that black kid and the newsman I was like OH FUCK IS THIS UNECESSARY.

I liked it, personally.

[LegendShark]

Oh right, I still liked it but it was unnecessary and was essentially Alan Moore jerking off and when he was finished going "Well aren't I clever?"

[Fonzy]

Oh right, I still liked it but it was unnecessary and was essentially Alan Moore jerking off and when he was finished going "Well aren't I clever?"

Meh, I saw the ending coming, so I kind of read the stories as being parallel from the start.

[LegendShark]

How could you possibly see that ending coming? There was no real trail of clues left.

I mean, it was simple to deduce that Veidt was the villain, but beyond that? It was almost out of nowhere.

[Van]

I kinda liked the other story. Sometimes it dragged on too long, but you could easily avoid it if you so wished.

[Fonzy]

How could you possibly see that ending coming? There was no real trail of clues left.

I mean, it was simple to deduce that Veidt was the villain, but beyond that? It was almost out of nowhere.

No the pirate story.

[LegendShark]

No the pirate story.

Oh okay yeah that was also sort of obvious though I think someone told me the ending of that for some reason before I read it.

[BlaineTog]

Re: the ending, yeah, I just didn't care about anything that was going on by that point. I don't quite remember where it was that I stopped bothering trying to empathize with events, but by the time we found out that it was *gasp* Ozy, I couldn't muster anything other than, "Well look at that: the city died. Huh."

[xXx]

I kind wish blue man Jon just fucked up way more people.

[Mixed Berry Hotcakes.]

It's had good reviews and it's had bad reviews, but the bad ones have come from fucktards, so I'm seeing it on Saturday.

Here's hoping they leave in the 'Black as the Devil, sweet as a stolen kiss' line as well as the essay on Manhattan and Total Destruction.

[SizzlingStapleCider]

I read the comic a few months ago after I saw the trailer. After getting to the last volume, I for some reason stopped (even though I wanted to read it!). I finally did so a couple of days ago, and that was pretty awesome.

Too bad yesterday I found out they took out the dead bodies everywhere and blown up squid from the movie. Cuz of 9/11 or some shit like that. Pretty lame.

Spoilers in link, obv: http://io9.com/5160960/how-911-changed-watchmen

[LegendShark]

I don't think it was because of 9/11. Well, the squid part anyways. And I think the bodies because it was just too graphic. I think the giant squid was taken out because it was fucking stupid.

[Kant]

I don't think it was because of 9/11. Well, the squid part anyways. And I think the bodies because it was just too graphic. I think the giant squid was taken out because it was fucking stupid.

Yeah, what they went with makes a lot more sense, though the squid thing was primarily there because it didn't make sense.

Which is retarded.

[Van]

Yeah, what they went with makes a lot more sense, though the squid thing was primarily there because it didn't make sense.

Which is retarded.

From what I've read, Veidt causes multiple energy generators to explode and frames Dr. Manhattan. That doesn't make much sense for what Ozy was trying to achieve, comparatively. His idea was to sacrifice a few million people to unite the world against a common enemy, correct? Manhattan can be a decent scapegoat, except that it DOESN'T unite the world like the alien would. Think about how the world views America. If all of a sudden America's greatest weapon killed millions of people around the world, who would people blame? Manhattan would catch only a fraction of the blame, while America would become a global enemy for endorsing such a dangerous over-being and for allowing such a thing to occur. It would guarantee World War III, not prevent it.

While the genitalia squid alien is silly compared with the rest of the backdrop, it's kindof the point. The book has the sudden shock of having the mostly realistic story and characters suddenly take on a turn for the bizarre: the reader experiences the same shock as those around the world would at the discovery of this horrible creation. This same effect could very easily be transferred to film, probably even better. The fact that it is so bizarre and unthinkable means that aside from the initial panic, a single nation couldn't be blamed for such a thing. The devastation from the alien's presence would be deemed a significant enough threat to unite the world against it without the blame being shifted to another country.

The cold war plays a big part in the messages and setting. Having a large explosion that resembles a nuclear blast would not unite the people in such a world.

[Fonzy]

After the last couple posts, I'm a little disappointed to hear what it's going to be like.

[SizzlingStapleCider]

From what I've read, Veidt causes multiple energy generators to explode and frames Dr. Manhattan. That doesn't make much sense for what Ozy was trying to achieve, comparatively. His idea was to sacrifice a few million people to unite the world against a common enemy, correct? Manhattan can be a decent scapegoat, except that it DOESN'T unite the world like the alien would. Think about how the world views America. If all of a sudden America's greatest weapon killed millions of people around the world, who would people blame? Manhattan would catch only a fraction of the blame, while America would become a global enemy for endorsing such a dangerous over-being and for allowing such a thing to occur. It would guarantee World War III, not prevent it.

While the genitalia squid alien is silly compared with the rest of the backdrop, it's kindof the point. The book has the sudden shock of having the mostly realistic story and characters suddenly take on a turn for the bizarre: the reader experiences the same shock as those around the world would at the discovery of this horrible creation. This same effect could very easily be transferred to film, probably even better. The fact that it is so bizarre and unthinkable means that aside from the initial panic, a single nation couldn't be blamed for such a thing. The devastation from the alien's presence would be deemed a significant enough threat to unite the world against it without the blame being shifted to another country.

The cold war plays a big part in the messages and setting. Having a large explosion that resembles a nuclear blast would not unite the people in such a world.

That's not it, at least not it for the comic. Corrections here:

EDIT: nvm, you're just talking about the movie

[LegendShark]

After the last couple posts, I'm a little disappointed to hear what it's going to be like.

I already saw that rumor elsewhere and I'm saddened by that as well. Also, if Ozymandias creates a machine that mimics Doc's powers, then Doc would destroy it. Plain and simple. Either that or he would let Rorshach kill Veidt. Which would drastically change the ending. I'm really hoping that they find a way to make the giant alien gone without fucking up (because it seems from the trailers that their commited to make the alien nonexistent no matter what, unless that's a setup.)

[Fonzy]

Honest question: how long are we going to let the popular media enforce a silent ban on depictions of mass destruction and violence in New York City because of 9/11? Seriously. 9/11 is something I have a pretty strong reverence for, even though I was nowhere near anything that went down, but I think that rational adults can tell the difference between reality and a fictional story that actually has nothing to do with a real-life event. I'm not really complaining, just wondering how long it will take.

[mrs_bun]

United 93 was incredibly tacky. If they can make that, anything is far game, imo.

[LegendShark]

Honest question: how long are we going to let the popular media enforce a silent ban on depictions of mass destruction and violence in New York City because of 9/11? Seriously. 9/11 is something I have a pretty strong reverence for, even though I was nowhere near anything that went down, but I think that rational adults can tell the difference between reality and a fictional story that actually has nothing to do with a real-life event. I'm not really complaining, just wondering how long it will take.

Yknow I haven't really noticed that happening. Wasn't Cloverfield in New York?

[LegendShark]

And I am Legend?

[mrs_bun]

Cloverfield was stupid.

[Fonzy]

Yknow I haven't really noticed that happening. Wasn't Cloverfield in New York?

And I am Legend?

Well then what the fuck? Why doesn't this movie end like it should?

[LegendShark]

Well then what the fuck? Why doesn't this movie end like it should?

I think there is still going to be an explosion in NYC, it will just be Sans the giant alien.

[Fonzy]

I think there is still going to be an explosion in NYC, it will just be Sans the giant alien.

That's so lame. Even if they were hesitant to reproduce the panel after panel depiction of piles of corpses everywhere, they could still do the alien thing effectively.

EDIT- I hate this stupid movie already. :mad:

[LegendShark]

That's so lame. Even if they were hesitant to reproduce the panel after panel depiction of piles of corpses everywhere, they could still do the alien thing effectively.

I'm still hoping that this is all an elaborate ruse to develop hype for the movie. It's unlike Zach Snyder to not use something from the comic exactly like it is in the comic just because he feels like it.

[BlaineTog]

I'm still hoping that this is all an elaborate ruse to develop hype for the movie. It's unlike Zach Snyder to not use something from the comic exactly like it is in the comic just because he feels like it.To be fair, getting rid of the stupid squid could be just because it's really stupid.

Honestly, I'll be fine with the ending as long as A) the motivation makes sense (ie the plan might actually work), and B) they wait long enough to make the character's reactions realistic, unlike the 1.4 frames we get in the comic.

Fucking Alan Moore...

[Van]

Zack Synder shot two endings :V

He did the alien one to stay faithful to comic, and he shot the current ending in case the general public didn't take to the alien thing. During test screenings, people preferred the new ending, so that's the one that's going into theaters. The DVD will contain both endings, probably a 9 hour directors cut or something as well.

For the record, Synder isn't the only one in charge of the thing. The screenplay was done by this guy:
http://www.gameater.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/solid_snake.jpg

EDIT:Honestly, I'll be fine with the ending as long as A) the motivation makes sense (ie the plan might actually work), and B) they wait long enough to make the character's reactions realistic, unlike the 1.4 frames we get in the comic.A) see my earlier post
B) Except that the speed of the character's reactions is determined by the reader. Aside from creating tons of unnecessary frames/pages to highlight a dramatic pause, there's not much else the writer can do other than overload it with ellipses.

[Kant]

I got Imax Directors Cut tickets to this movie
On opening day
at 10PM

I LOVE MY PERSONLESS TOWN

[Cara]

I'm not going until the nerds like Kant leave.

[Kant]

I'm not going until the nerds like Kant leave.

Says the person posting from an internet forum. :V

[mrs_bun]

Only nerds are on the internet.

[Van]

Says the person posting from an internet forum. :V

How does this relate to anything, exactly?

The Food Network has a forum :V

[Kant]

Only nerds are on the internet.

Quiet, I'm pointing out Cara's hypocracy.

[mrs_bun]

A government of lessers?

[Cara]

Quiet, I'm pointing out Cara's hypocracy.

Have I ever said I wasn't a hypocrite?

[Kant]

Have I ever said I wasn't a hypocrite?

touche.

[Cara]

itt alan moore is a psychotic right wing zealot.

No, Frank Miller is a psychotic right wing zealot. Alan Moore is a psychotic left wing zealot.

[Van]

No he didn't. Hayter's just getting credit because he wrote a script (that significantly deviated from the comic and Alan Moore fucking liked it) for an earlier attempt to get the movie made. Someone else (someone I know of but can't recall) did the new script. Gibbons also advised on the movie.

He was being interviewed about the movie, so that's why I made that connection. I did hear about his earlier, different script though.

Alan Moore liked the different script because he's incredibly against movies being faithful to his works. Even if they did a movie where they didn't change a goddamn thing, he would hate it because it wasn't his work in print form. Moore is the same guy who wanted V in a Paul Revere mask. Probably would have wanted the watchman movie to have an iraq war allegory instead of a cold war one, and changed the ending significantly into something more relevant.

Another change that hasn't been brought up: President Nixon dies at the end. A black hand picks up the presidential seal. I WONDER WHO THAT COULD BE? :V

I know it's the popular thing to bash down on Moore for being completely insane, but I greatly prefer his refreshing change of pace to, say, Stan Lee

[Van]

Also, lol: http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090304/REVIEWS/903049997

Ebert sounds almost giddy!

It was the blue dong that did it :V

[BlaineTog]

It's not.It very much is. Now, I'm pretty sure it's intentionally stupid, by way of mocking superhero comics, and may well be suitable for what the book's going for... but its stupidity remains, and I could see how an audience would hate that.

You read Ulysses and actually enjoyed it. You really think you're qualified to discern what's "really stupid"?You're a son of a bitch who probably neglects his hygiene on a regular basis. You really think you're qualified to comment on... anything?

(See, I can commit ad homs too!)

If what Van said was correct, it makes no fucking sense at all. Really? A nuke-like effect? During the cold war? In a story that's literally about the dangers of nuclear war?Oh it very probably won't make sense if the rumors are true. I'm hoping either they pull it off better than that, or that the rumors are missing important details.

Their reactions are, from my interpretations, supposed to be unrealistic. Except for Rorschach, which was supposed to be realistic.There was nothing unrealistic about their decisions. They made the cynical, pragmatic choice. They did what most people would probably do, not what we've been told heroes should do, which is, by my reading, the point. I don't dispute that they would likely come to that conclusion. What annoys me is that there was no coming to, no process of reasoning things out. They almost instantly decided what to do, and though they weren't particularly happy about it, they didn't show any wavering in their decision. Now, these people are all obviously disturbed in very particular ways, but regardless, they just don't act like they should here. Jon would certainly make the decision immediately, but I'd expect Night Owl to basically back out of the conversation in sputterings and what's-her-face to stay pretty much out of it entirely. And in any case, it should have taken at least half a page to a page longer to resolve.

[mrs_bun]

BT, I think Shady's burn not an ad hominem per se. He was saying you have a stupid opinion on a subject, so anything involving brains is outside your qualifications. Still a pretty bad jab, but you're comeback was jsut terrible. :P

[BlaineTog]

BT, I think Shady's burn not an ad hominem per se. He was saying you have a stupid opinion on a subject, so anything involving brains is outside your qualifications. Still a pretty bad jab, but you're comeback was jsut terrible. :PStill an ad hom. It was still an attack on me rather than my argument. And mine was supposed to be facetious.

@Shady: pretty much. Though I wasn't particularly impressed with Rorschach 's decision either. He's crazy and didn't really have a choice in how to act, which saps whatever heroism, nobility, or awesomeness his going rogue could have had.

[mrs_bun]

It may have had an attack connotation, but he was questioning your credibility on forming an opinion, not a fact, tho, so I feel like it was a valid argument. The whole thing is really silly. Also I'm not agreeing with him, I like James Joyce. :D

[BlaineTog]

It may have had an attack connotation, but he was questioning your credibility on forming an opinion, not a fact, tho, so I feel like it was a valid argument.Attacking someone's credibility is still logically invalid. A bad source can still make a good argument, so you still have to attack their argument on its own merits.

And :cool: re: Joyce.

[mrs_bun]

^_^

I really like stream of consciousness.

[Fonzy]

Joyce can suck my balls.

For real.

[mrs_bun]

He's not my type, but okay... :P

Also, reading for fun is different than critical reading.

[Fonzy]

He's not my type, but okay... :P

Also, reading for fun is different than critical reading.

We read "The Dubliners" in 12th grade honors English, which I despised, and then a buddy of mine bought a copy of Ulysses, because he actually liked it. I later borrowed the book to try to pick up on whatever it was I was missing, but came up completely empty. I might have made it through 50 pages before I just said screw it.

[BlaineTog]

We read "The Dubliners" in 12th grade honors English, which I despised, and then a buddy of mine bought a copy of Ulysses, because he actually liked it. I later borrowed the book to try to pick up on whatever it was I was missing, but came up completely empty. I might have made it through 50 pages before I just said screw it."Ulysses" is actually wildly different depending on which chapters you read. The first 50 pages should get you partway into chapter three, right? Chapter 3 is by far the hardest section in the book, though chapter 16 comes close, and it's where most people who stop reading it stop. It's all worth it for chapters 15, 17, and 18, if nothing else, though (those are my favorites, anyway).

[Kant]

I dunno, I think that there is an intense difference between Rorschach and Walter Kovacks. Kovacks, like everyone else, understands that though millions died in the attack, billions will die if Ozy's plan goes wrong. Which is why he demasks and asks Manhattan to kill him.

[Van]

I dunno, I think that there is an intense difference between Rorschach and Walter Kovacks. Kovacks, like everyone else, understands that though millions died in the attack, billions will die if Ozy's plan goes wrong. Which is why he demasks and asks Manhattan to kill him.

I remember reading that the only reason Kovack took his mask off was because it "felt" right. I don't know how much significance it has to his sacrifice or if it is indicative of his asking Manhattan to kill him.

Thinking about it, I half agree with you. Rorschach's moral compass is skewed, but very strong. He knows that Veidt is wrong, even if for the right reasons. He is obviously disgusted at his fellow vigilantes and their acceptance of Veidt's atrocities. The fact that the plan will work, and that his 'friends' have turned a blind eye on such actions defeats Rorschach psychologically. When Manhattan confronts him, he acknowledges how hopeless his actions are against the fate of the world and the ultimate futility of his actions as a vigilante. Realizing how powerless he is, he gives up his now purposeless life.

But Kovacks offering his life to protect Veidt's master plan? Yeah right.

[LegendShark]

New rumor: Jon doesn't kill Rorschach at the end. Just heard it today.

[Fonzy]

I got a bonus at work so I might just have to go see this shit tomorrow.

[Fonzy]

Also, I always took Rorschach's statement to mean, "you better kill me now or I'm going to make trouble for all of you".

[Kant]

Rorschach is a funny character, because he has the idea of morality that a teenager has, but he also has the idea of morality that a lot of us have when we're reading a book/comic/watching a movie. "Kill people who are bad" is pretty much the crux of the guy's motivations, with the idea of compromise being beyond his ability.

The dude has the ethical and political outlook of a character in a book, except he lives in a very real world. He's rather similar to Don Quixote in this way, and at the end, when Ozy's plan is revealed his whole idea of the world is broken.

However; Walter Kovacks isn't a character--he's a human being, he puts n the mask of Rorschach to give him the power to do what he thinks needs to be done. As a human being, he sees the consequences of what his actions will bring if he succeeds (and he's sure he's succeeded--Rorschach/Kovacks seems like he has a huge sense of self importance), he asks Manhattan to kill him so that he can have the amazingness of his action without facing the consequence.

[BlaineTog]

Rorschach wasn't crazy. Okay, he was crazy, but he didn't make his decisions illogically. He followed a very refined moral compass which in his mind made perfect sense. His demasking and 'cracking' towards the end was indicative of his 'heroism' for disliking the solution and resignment to his fate.Rorschach didn't "follow" anything. He had a psychotic break and acted thereafter with almost no input from his will. Rather, Kovacs became submerged into Rorschach, an automaton that was not capable of acting differently than he did, that lacked free will. That bit at the end where Kovacs came out? That was him asking Jon to end his imprisonment.

I honestly don't see how you can love Ulysses and not like ... well, pretty much every other artist ever. I (kinda/mostly) get the reasons behind Ulysses reading like a schizophrenic fart, but I believe it detracts from the reading experience too much.Well, it's your prerogative as a reader to dislike whatever you want to dislike, just as it's mine to like whatever I want. Mostly, I like the writing itself, though the characters are fascinating as well. There's a lot in there's that's really hilarious, though (chapter 15 the most obviously so, though chapter 17 has a nice wryness to it). And, of course, the whole last chapter is just really, really good.

[iAlso I've been raging on Ulysses lately because of stuff that happened IRL. :V[/i]There there.

I dunno, I think that there is an intense difference between Rorschach and Walter Kovacks. Kovacks, like everyone else, understands that though millions died in the attack, billions will die if Ozy's plan goes wrong. Which is why he demasks and asks Manhattan to kill him.Yeah, I think you should give reading the book another try.

[Kant]

Yeah, I think you should give reading the book another try.

The text when he tells Manhattan to kill him is normal, not fucked up like all the Rorschach lines are--it's Walter telling Manhattan to kill Rorschach.

[BlaineTog]

The text when he tells Manhattan to kill him is normal, not fucked up like all the Rorschach lines are--it's Walter telling Manhattan to kill Rorschach.Right, I don't disagree. I just think you need to take another guess about his motivations behind why.

[Kant]

Right, I don't disagree. I just think you need to take another guess about his motivations behind why.

Post above yours--it's because he wants to commit the action without suffering the consequences.

[BlaineTog]

Post above yours--it's because he wants to commit the action without suffering the consequences.Post above yours - you need to give it another look-see.

[Kant]

Different interpretations of a book? Nonsense!

[BlaineTog]

Different interpretations of a book? Nonsense!:rip:

[Yurgs]

New rumor: Jon doesn't kill Rorschach at the end. Just heard it today.

According to my friend, Jon kills Rorschach, and there is no alien.

[Shadow]

ITT: Kant proves that going to college allowed him to unlock the "secrets" of Watchmen.

[Zerg]

Going to watch it in half an hour :V

[BlaineTog]

I always thought Rorschach was just a deontologist to the extreme!Er, I subtly disagree. I don't think he's quite as complex as that. He's running off maxims rather than laws. Specifically, one maxim alone: punish wrongdoers. A true deontologist would care about how that punishment was administered.

[Pfisiar]

I always thought Rorschach was just a deontologist to the extreme! The difference between he and Kovacs is that Kovacs understood pragmatism.

Kovacs was the "weak" "side".
Yet, which side wins in the end?

[LegendShark]

Yet, which side wins in the end?

Kovacs.

I think that's why Rorschach took off his mask at the end. He broke down. His weaker side, Kovaks took over.

Rorschach couldn't handle a world where someone could kill millions of people in an effort to save the world. Rorschach broke, and as Kovaks demanded death from Jon.

[Zerg]

Rorschach's voice is fucking annoying.

Movie would've been 30% better without Batman syndrome.

[LegendShark]

Rorschach's voice is fucking annoying.

Movie would've been 30% better without Batman syndrome.

I had heard this already from another source. Fuck.

[artvandelay]

Does Jon kill him or not? Am I going to be disappointed with this ending?

[Fonzy]

Going to see it tomorrow, apparently.

[Pfisiar]

Does Jon kill him or not? Am I going to be disappointed with this ending?
The ending plays.

Also, I thought the voice was good. I mean, it was supposed to be theatrical and gravely like that. At least, I thought so.

[LegendShark]

Loved it.

It worked way better as a comic than it did as a movie, pacing wise, but that was to be expected.

They handled the ending perfectly. It wasn't a giant alien creature, but it wasn't a let down. I just wish they had alluded to the squid in some form, but that is neither here nor there.

It was frighteningly similar to the comics. The cast was perfect. (Even Malin Akerman, she was better than I expected. Being hot as holy hell didn't detract from my experience either) Rorschach's voice, though stupid sounding, did not actually get on my nerves.

The opening credits made me jizz in my pants. Though I wish they didn't extend the comedian's death scene like they did.

My one big complaint was the music. Yes, all of it was awesome. They were great songs from the time period. None of them fit in the movie. It irked me greatly. I do still want the soundtrack, though, those were some really good songs.

[Pfisiar]

Malin Akerman's body would rate a ten on my scale. Her breasts and ass are nothing short of sublime in their shape and size.

Big Figure and his cronies' death was the scene I'd been waiting to see. And it really didn't disappoint.

[LegendShark]

Malin Akerman's body would rate a ten on my scale. Her breasts and ass are nothing short of sublime in their shape and size.
I'd give her a fifteen...
Big Figure and his cronies' death was the scene I'd been waiting to see. And it really didn't disappoint.

No, it did not. :V

[LegendShark]

Oh, and I loled at what they did to Dan at the end. I mean, maybe they were trying to give him a more human response to the situation, but it was completely out of character and then it seemed like he just grew tired of being an ass and left.

If they were gonna change what happened, they could have at least followed through with it.

[Kant]

So I spent 14 of my last 20 dollars to see the Watchmen at 10 PM today.

I sit down at 8 PM waiting for my bus, knowing that the bus is late and is on an hourly schedual.

At 11:30 I gave up.

3
AND A HALF

HOURS

OF WAITING FOR A BUS.

THE BUS WAS SUPPOSED TO STOP 4 TIMES.

[Fonzy]

Why in the name of god would you wait that long?

[Kant]

Why in the name of god would you wait that long?

Horrific hope that I'd get to see the movie I just spent almost all of my remaining (not really, I have money in the bank but cannot access it here) money on?

[LegendShark]

Horrific hope that I'd get to see the movie I just spent almost all of my remaining (not really, I have money in the bank but cannot access it here) money on?

You're dumb.

[Kant]

You're dumb.

Yeah, you're right, waiting for the bus when you have no alternative is dumb.

[LegendShark]

Yeah, you're right, waiting for the bus when you have no alternative is dumb.

http://www.tanintencorp.com/BurkeScienceofCyclingLegDiagram.bmp

[Kant]

http://www.tanintencorp.com/BurkeScienceofCyclingLegDiagram.bmp

Ok, do you understand the way buses work in rural areas?

The city of White Plains
A)is 10 miles away
B)is accessable via a pair of bridges which do not have walkways or shoulders.

[Fonzy]

http://www.tanintencorp.com/BurkeScienceofCyclingLegDiagram.bmp

This is lulz, but seriously, how did you "give up" then if you had no alternative?

[Kant]

This is lulz, but seriously, how did you "give up" then if you had no alternative?

I decided "I'm an hour and a half into the movie, it would take an hour to walk, fuck it I'll go to a concert"

[LegendShark]

8 miles is about an hour jog.

3 times faster than your proposed way of travel.

Fake edit: It just turned to ten miles. Woah.

I guess there's still no way to get around no walkways.

[LegendShark]

I decided "I'm an hour and a half into the movie, it would take an hour to walk, fuck it I'll go to a concert"

With no money?

[Kant]

8 miles is about an hour jog.

3 times faster than your proposed way of travel.

Fake edit: It just turned to ten miles. Woah.

I guess there's still no way to get around no walkways.

I did a quick check after the post. Yeah, the biggest problem is that there is literally no way to get to the town from this village on foot, without going over a huge bridge without shoulders.

[Kant]

With no money?

College campus?

[LegendShark]

College campus?

What ev.

BTW I saw some like 5 year old kids come running out of Watchmen with their mom/guardian/person not doing their job and I was liek :huh:

[Captain Piano]

Yeah, I think there was a baby sitting behind me. Anyway, the movie was very damn good. Much better than 300. It scares me how good Zack Snyder is at making movies. Anyway, who is everyone's favorite character?

[Kant]

Comedian.

[LegendShark]

Rorschach and the Comedian are tied because they're both bamfs.

However Rorschach is kind of retarded and Comedian is too bamfy for his own good.

In the graphic novel though I kind of liked Jon the most because he had the whole "I'm better than you, and I know it" thing down pat.

[Captain Piano]

I'll have to admit, Jon was kind of badass in the movie.

[LegendShark]

I'll have to admit, Jon was kind of badass in the movie.

I dunno, he seemed a lot whinier in the movie.

[Kant]

watching the movie was like being 15 and reading the book again--"Yeah, Rorschach is a massive dick, but he's 15 kinds of badass, so it's ok"

"YOU'RE LOCKED IN HERE WITH ME!" was an intensely awesome line and everyone cheered during it. However, I think that the moviemaker's taking refuge in audacity with how retardedly violent the action scenes are kinda made it too comedic for my tastes. Also, when the soundtrack did work (and wasn't 'oh, hey, we're at a funeral, let's play 'sound of a funeral'!') it may have worked too well. You're not supposed to cheer at how badass Comedian is when he's shooting a shotgun into protestors.

[Fonzy]

I dug it. Thought they did a good job of adapting the story without cutting out any crucial elements. The ending was kind of weird, in my opinion (nobody seemed to be asking why John would do that), but other than that, I was very drawn in and entertained.

EDIT - Biggest complaint - excessive blue penis. But whatever.

Also I can see +t's point, but I think if you are familiar enough with the comic, it's not a problem.

[BlaineTog]

Saw it. There were some parts I liked more than in the book and some less. I'd probably have to watch it again to have a truly objective viewing of it, but I didn't like it enough to seek that out. I really liked how Nightowl reacted at the ending. The sex and violence were both terribly gratuitous; while the actress who played Silk Specter II is perhaps the hottest woman in the world (certainly a contender), it wasn't even a little bit necessary for us to see as much of her naked as we did.

[artvandelay]

Awkward sex scene.
Awkward blue penis. A lot.
Didn't like that Manhattan ending where he was 'responsible' for all of those deaths.
But ok overall.

[mrs_bun]

I was prolly getting dragged to this anyway, but def going now for explanation of blue penis a lot. :rofl:

[Captain Piano]

*THIS POST CONTAINS SPOILERS*

It seems that your enjoyment of the movie is inversely proportionate to your knowledge of the comic. Since I've never read the comic, I liked the movie a lot. Also, I thought that the sex scene was one of the better sex scenes in any movie, the music worked perfectly, Leonard Cohen or no. I want that version of Hallelujah...was that the original? Also, I got pretty pumped up when All Along the Watchtower started playing. Hendrix does that crazy bend right when they fly Archie over the cliff...beautiful.

The ending was patently illogical though. "We're gonna unite against a common enemy – Dr. Manhattan." Yeah ok, except Dr. Manhattan says he's leaving for a different galaxy, so...who want to take bets on how long before the U.S. and Russia start aiming nukes at eachother again when they realize there's nothing they can fucking do to fight Dr. Manhattan. The ending was set up to be a denouement, but it just wasn't convincing. 15 million people are dead and all the major cities have been leveled, and we're supposed to be happy?

[LegendShark]

I want that version of Hallelujah...was that the original?

No.

Edit: I liked the original better tbh.

[Kant]

There were points where the film is better than the book, but the book is better than the film most of the time. I'm pretty sure that the XTREMEEE violence was a parody of something.

[LegendShark]

I just realized: Hollis Mason was never shot! :mad:

[BlaineTog]

The ending was patently illogical though. "We're gonna unite against a common enemy – Dr. Manhattan." Yeah ok, except Dr. Manhattan says he's leaving for a different galaxy, so...who want to take bets on how long before the U.S. and Russia start aiming nukes at eachother again when they realize there's nothing they can fucking do to fight Dr. Manhattan. The ending was set up to be a denouement, but it just wasn't convincing. 15 million people are dead and all the major cities have been leveled, and we're supposed to be happy?Yeah, I don't mind ditching the giant squid thing, but it would have been nice if the ending had made *any sense whatsoever*. I mean, with a political situation as tense as that, do you think Russia would wait to see if America had been attacked before launching their missiles? "Holy crap, we just got nuked! No, wait, it was Dr. Manattan! His disappearance was a ruse! Oh fuck, launch the missiles, launch then now, before he blows us up and we can't anymore!"

There were points where the film is better than the book, but the book is better than the film most of the time. I'm pretty sure that the XTREMEEE violence was a parody of something.No, I'm pretty sure it was Zach Snyder thinking extreme violence is cool and, along with gratuitous nudity, will sell tickets. Remember 300? I remember 300.

I just realized: Hollis Mason was never shot! :mad:I actually really liked that! Hollis was the one character in the book that I completely liked, and I didn't want him to die because of a misunderstanding, or at all, really.

[LegendShark]

I actually really liked that! Hollis was the one character in the book that I completely liked, and I didn't want him to die because of a misunderstanding, or at all, really.

Oh I know, I'm just beint nitpicky for fun. :V

[mrs_bun]

Oh I know, I'm just beint nitpicky for fun. :V

:V

[Van]

Yeah, I don't mind ditching the giant squid thing, but it would have been nice if the ending had made *any sense whatsoever*. I mean, with a political situation as tense as that, do you think Russia would wait to see if America had been attacked before launching their missiles? "Holy crap, we just got nuked! No, wait, it was Dr. Manattan! His disappearance was a ruse! Oh fuck, launch the missiles, launch then now, before he blows us up and we can't anymore!"

Yeah, see my rant a few pages back. The ending makes NO sense for this, especially since it takes place during an alternate cold war era. Even if it caused a 10 minute peace, they'd be firing nukes as fast as the big red button would let them.

I still have yet to see the movie. Probably won't until it comes out on DVD.

[LegendShark]

Apparently to promote the movie some bar gave out condoms in smiley face packages that said "We are society's only protection."

[Shadow]

Apparently to promote the movie some bar gave out condoms in smiley face packages that said "We are society's only protection."

For 300 I got Spartan Condoms.

Just sayin' cause you can make condom packages out of any stupid idea.

[Kant]

Friend of mine gave me a really good idea about it--

The action was purposefully done over-the-top. The movie is extended into a massive Comedian-esque joke--it shows us that when we see the most terrible things that man can do to man, all we can do is laugh.

[BlaineTog]

Friend of mine gave me a really good idea about it--

The action was purposefully done over-the-top. The movie is extended into a massive Comedian-esque joke--it shows us that when we see the most terrible things that man can do to man, all we can do is laugh.No, I think it's far more likely that Zach Snyder thinks gratuitous fight scenes are cool.

[artvandelay]

I liked Nixon's nose.

[LegendShark]

I liked Nixon's nose.

I did not. It was the same thing Snyder did in 300 with all of the exaggerated features. It was dumb and was distracting to look at.

[artvandelay]

I did not. It was the same thing Snyder did in 300 with all of the exaggerated features. It was dumb and was distracting to look at.

I thought it was supposed to be exaggerated. :cry:

[LegendShark]

I thought it was supposed to be exaggerated. :cry:

It was not exaggerated like that in the book if thats what you mean.

IMO it was just the director pretending to be artsy while fucking up anything that wasn't in the original source material.

[Kant]

No, I think it's far more likely that Zach Snyder thinks gratuitous fight scenes are cool.

She was really high at the time and has a tendency to look too deeply into things, but it's a really cool theory.

[Penner]

Things The Watchmen could do with 3D;

Exaggerate Nixon's nose even more; Exaggerate a massive swinging blue penis... even more.

[Van]

Things The Watchmen could do with 3D;

Exaggerate Nixon's nose even more; Exaggerate a massive swinging blue penis... even more.

I heard the actor complained that the blue penis was actually too small :V

[Kant]

Things The Watchmen could do with 3D;

Exaggerate Nixon's nose even more; Exaggerate a massive swinging blue penis... even more.

The directors cut has Dr.Manhattan with a foot-long penis.

[Fonzy]

In the directors cut Dr.Manhattan IS a giant blue penis.

Fixt.

[LegendShark]

It wasn't really that big in the comic IIRC.

The penis, I mean.

[Fonzy]

I don't even remember seeing it in the comic, which is how I like my blue penii: completely unobtrusive.

[Captain Piano]

Wait, was the penis CG? It looked pretty damn real.

[Kant]

We've made great strides in computer generated penis technology.

[Fonzy]

Wait, was the penis CG? It looked pretty damn real.

Considering the whole guy's body was CG, I'm doubting they just had him walk around with his dick painted blue while filming with the intention of later superimposing a digital body over top of the blue penis.

[Captain Piano]

I just watched this video ---> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szrwAfJSZLY

all has been illuminated

[notallama]

they circumcised him (http://uaecommunity.blogspot.com/2009/03/watchmen-mysterious-case-of-missing.html)

[notallama]

also, his pens wasn't huge. :/
it was about this big *holds out hands*

[Kant]

Imagine the guys who's job it was to render the penis. How's that going to work on your resume?

Was it the job they gave to someone who had pissed them off?

[Van]

Imagine the guys who's job it was to render the penis. How's that going to work on your resume?

Was it the job they gave to someone who had pissed them off?

Thing about CGI: there were probably about a half dozen people working on his penis, taking shifts :V

[Shadow]

I saw it and I thought it was awesome good.

[notallama]

you act like it'd be an unpleasant task, kant.

[jok3r]

Too much blue cg penis, not enough fleshy, real boobs..

movie was amazing, though.

[Kant]

My thoughts on the matter

Who Watches the Watchmen's penis?

The thing that bothers me most about Watchmen isn't the cornyness (which Ava has an amazing theory about), it wasn't how dark it was, it wasn't that I may or may not have teared up during the opening scene.

My biggest problem was with Manhattan's penis. But it's not how you think it is.

It's not that the penis was around too much, or that the penis took up too much of the space, or that the penis was large or small. My problem is this.

That penis was CGI, just like the rest of Manhattan.

Which means that they had guys working on rendering Manhattan's johnson. Knowing how complex CGI animation is nowadays, they probably had 20 people working in shifts to render the thing. Imagine how that's going to look on a guys resume

FRANK SMITHINGTON

Previous experience

-rendered Dr.Manhattans left testicle (Watchmen)

How do you even present this information in a resume? Do you use the scientific word, or is balls fine? Where do they get the guys who render dongs for a living? Where do they come from?

Was rendering the penis the job they gave to the dicks (heh) in the CGI department? "Nice going sleeping with Snyders wife, Frank, now go into the corner and start rendering Manhattan's manpipe."

Or maybe they got the 8% of kids who can't stop drawing schlongs, I mean, this opens up a whole new page for the Penis Art movement. They've raised the bar on all previous dong related artworks, to the degree where I can't even look at the average bathroom wall graffiti without being disgusted at the lack of detail. Next time I walk into the men's bathroom in the humanities building, I expect a perfectly drawn penis, because as we all know, the grafitti artist of today with a concentration in wang painting will be the testicle renderer of tomorrow.

[Van]

This whole ridiculous penis theory going on is trumped by the fact that any sane man would put "Rendering for Dr. Manhattan (Watchmen)" and not bring up the penis at all.

I'm sure many felt it was art. Michelangelo's David has his shlong out, and I'm pretty sure he didn't get to working on that one part and went "eeewww! yucky man parts! lemme get some apprentice to do this part."

Plus, they're all fully grown, professional adults working on a mature film based upon one of the most important novels of the 20th century. Yeah, there might be some unpleasantness, but that fact that you can't stop talking about blue dick says much more about you than anything else. :V

[mrs_bun]

I thought it was good. It was surprisingly good. I thought it might be either super dark or super cheesy, but it was jsut the right amount. Course I wasn't really emotionally invested going in, so maybe I'm not a good person to comment on it.

[Kant]

You get me on an off the wall topic like this and I can literally, not stop talking.

[mrs_bun]

This whole ridiculous penis theory going on is trumped by the fact that any sane man would put "Rendering for Dr. Manhattan (Watchmen)" and not bring up the penis at all.

I'm sure many felt it was art. Michelangelo's David has his shlong out, and I'm pretty sure he didn't get to working on that one part and went "eeewww! yucky man parts! lemme get some apprentice to do this part."

Plus, they're all fully grown, professional adults working on a mature film based upon one of the most important novels of the 20th century. Yeah, there might be some unpleasantness, but that fact that you can't stop talking about blue dick says much more about you than anything else. :V

I think showing his wiener so much was an artistic device that doubly illustrated how he didn't care about human things anymore, and that not caring made everyone around him kinda vaguely uncomfy, judging from a few comments I heard in the movie. :P

[notallama]

if you were an animator, how could you possibly turn down an offer to animate a glowing blue penis that would be seen by millions?

i would specify scrotum on the resume.
well probably not. i'd gloat about it in other places, though.

[Van]

I think showing his wiener so much was an artistic device that doubly illustrated how he didn't care about human things anymore, and that not caring made everyone around him kinda vaguely uncomfy, judging from a few comments I heard in the movie. :P

bun is officially classier and more well read than Kant now.

[BlaineTog]

You get me on an off the wall topic like this and I can literally, not stop talking.I'll bet you could if you really really tried.

[Van]

I'll bet you could if you really really tried.

I would suggest a dick in the mouth.

He may paint is blue if he likes :V

[mrs_bun]

bun is officially classier and more well read than Kant now.

I can't tell if this is secretly a compliment or secretly an insult. :huh:

[Zerg]

OMG THEY SHOWED A CG DONG ON THE TV, WE MUST OBSESS OVER IT.

Grow up, Kant.

[Kant]

You guys need to take yourselves less seriously.

[Kant]

Perhaps YOU need to take YOURSELF MORE seriously.

I don't read enough furry pornography for that.

[Captain Piano]

Alright, anyone who mentions the blue dick from here on out will be banned.

[Cara]

Alright, anyone who mentions the blue dick from here on out will be banned.

And your light blue name is... where?

[Kant]

Some of the soundtrack choices were too ridiculous.

[Captain Piano]

I JUST WANT A BIG BLUE DICK TO PENETRATE MY ORIFICES IN A SYSTEMATIC FASHION
:nono: It's really sad what some people will do to support their addictions.

[mrs_bun]

:rip:

[Keeper]

Some of the soundtrack choices were too ridiculous.

Which did you have a problem with? I thought the soundtrack was pretty excellent.

[Kant]

Which did you have a problem with? I thought the soundtrack was pretty excellent.

Halleluyah

[LegendShark]

Which did you have a problem with? I thought the soundtrack was pretty excellent.

The soundtrack was excellent. Or it would be if none of it was in the movie.

[mrs_bun]

Halleluyah

It was hilarious/appropriate, and Tom Waits is fucking awesome. What more could you want?

Also I feel like I saw Tom Waits in the prison scene right after this song as jsut some random person getting set on fire, but it prolly wasn't him.

[Captain Piano]

It was hilarious/appropriate, and Tom Waits is fucking awesome. What more could you want?

Also I feel like I saw Tom Waits in the prison scene right after this song as jsut some random person getting set on fire, but it prolly wasn't him.

That was Tom Waits singing Hallelujah?

[Shadow]

It was hilarious/appropriate, and Tom Waits is fucking awesome. What more could you want?

Also I feel like I saw Tom Waits in the prison scene right after this song as jsut some random person getting set on fire, but it prolly wasn't him.

He could be in the movie uncredited. You never know.

[Fonzy]

No. EDIT-@cpt p

[LegendShark]

That was Tom Waits singing Hallelujah?

Leonard Cohen's recording of the song features in the 2009 movie Watchmen, a film based on the famous graphic novel. The song is used in a love scene between Nite Owl II and Silk Spectre II.
.

[mrs_bun]

Or Leonard Cohen lmao. I'm such a ditz. >_<

[Keeper]

http://gunshowcomic.com/comics/20090311.png

[mrs_bun]

I still feel like I saw Tom Waits in the prison scene. XP

[Shadow]

I remember when I saw Tom Waits in Mystery Men.

[Kant]

can't wait for Imaginarium Parnasus or whatever.

directed by terry gilliam, with Tom Waits as Satan, Jude Law, Heath Ledger, Johnny Depp and Colin Farrel

[Kant]

So at first I was like "who is john faggot kennedy" but then i see a gigantic wall of text and know it has to be Kant.

Love ya too, plus...err...tee

[Van]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v174/VA_Ninja/watchtrail.png

[Kant]

Trainspotting managed pretty well with it's soundtrack, even though the songs are a bit overwhelming at times.

[BlaineTog]

For those who haven't seen this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDDHHrt6l4w

[Yurgs]

I was bored throughout. From the costumes to the special effects to the god forsaken acting, the movie seemed more like a soap opera murder mystery then anything else. Perhaps I would have enjoyed it had I not been capable of comparing it to the graphic novel.

[LegendShark]

For those who haven't seen this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDDHHrt6l4w

I love that. Its been stuck in my head since I saw the movie.

[Fonzy]

For those who haven't seen this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDDHHrt6l4w

John can give you cancer, or turn into a car.

Oh god lulz.

[Van]

I love that so much. Watch at least once a day.

Also, knowing the relationship between Silk Spectre and Comedian makes that extra awesome :V

[Kant]

Rorschach is friends to the animals!

As he pets 2 dogs

[LegendShark]

I'm nutty!

If I could only get that kiss!