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quadibloc
01-11-2010, 07:45 PM
The economy tanked, and Magic: the Gathering is an expensive hobby.

As we know, Wizards responded by trying harder. Zendikar booster packs occasionally contained, in place of the (full art!) basic land... very, very, rarely... a "hidden treasure".

Zendikar is a set with a unique land-based theme, and has some really powerful cards in it. I think it can be pigeonholed as a "gimmick" set like Time Spiral.

There is speculation founded on
a Wizards trademark registration
that the block after Zendikar will be a very interesting block with powerful cards too.

That's great, but unfortunately, it also looks like that block will be a hard act to follow. So, even if the Fall 2011 set is well-designed, it could end up as another Kamigawa.

But that's the future.

The present is: after blue dominating Magic for so long, Wizards has finally been able to adjust the strengths of the various cards in Standard so that Blue is no longer dominant. Even White, though, has a leg up with Baneslayer Angel - a card strong in offense rather than defense.

It's good news that the game is more balanced, but its bad news that with less interaction, play is less sophisticated. (Balancing the mana curve of a red or green deck still takes plenty of skill, of course.)

I'm not going to bore you here with the details of the latest silly idea I've inflicted on Wizards' forums. Let's just say that basically it amounts to Wizards continuing to sell New Magic to the masses it wants to grab from Yu-Gi-Oh and Chaotic and so on... but to have Classic Magic as an alternate product to keep the rest of us involved as active customers.

I suppose the appropriate response to this is "Look how well that worked out for Coca-Cola", but... what do you think?

Shadow
01-11-2010, 07:51 PM
Quadibloc, you're homo and nobody likes you. Fuck off.

Fonzy
01-11-2010, 08:39 PM
Quadibloc, you're homo and nobody likes you. Fuck off.

<not this shit again.jpg>

Seriously, I'd probably still play Legacy at least if they hadn't tried to make me learn new rules.

Naga
01-11-2010, 11:36 PM
I don't feel like going to find it so just go ahead and tell me what is known about the block after Zendikar because that's all I found interesting about your post.

It's codename is Lights. That is all.

Zendikar is anything but a gimmick set. Sure, priceless treasures rose the prices of boxes by $20, but the set is an awesome draft format.

good news
01-12-2010, 01:23 AM
well wtf were the hidden treasures? were they cool?

I HAVEN'T PLAYED MAGIC SINCE DARKSTEEL WHAT HAS CHANGED SINCE THEN?

Tee See Em
01-12-2010, 02:18 AM
well wtf were the hidden treasures? were they cool?

I HAVEN'T PLAYED MAGIC SINCE DARKSTEEL WHAT HAS CHANGED SINCE THEN?
Old, at least reasonably valuable cards (IIRC including a few power?) were inserted randomly into boosters. I think the rarity was something like one per case (6 boxes).

Fonzy
01-12-2010, 08:44 AM
Old, at least reasonably valuable cards (IIRC including a few power?) were inserted randomly into boosters. I think the rarity was something like one per case (6 boxes).

Are you serious? They're finally reprinting power? Hahaha I knew it had to come sooner or later.

EDIT- Just googled and read a little bit about it. Weird that they didn't reprint the cards and just pulled them out of a WotC stash somewhere and put them into packs.

EDIT EDIT - FUCKING lol trap cards. I forgot about that.

notallama
01-12-2010, 07:13 PM
http://www.freewebs.com/kirbyscrib/yami_yugi.gif
haha! your mind is as feeble as your hair; you have activated my trap card!

Cara
01-12-2010, 09:09 PM
Someone explain what is going on

quadibloc
01-13-2010, 10:49 PM
It's codename is Lights. That is all.

Well, I don't want to put any major unofficial spoilers here, but this is an URL that the poster can follow if he is curious. We don't know anything for sure, but there is a reason to think certain possibilities are more likely.

http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/19978817/Set_names_for_block_after_Zendikar?pg=1

Zendikar is anything but a gimmick set. Sure, priceless treasures rose the prices of boxes by $20, but the set is an awesome draft format.

I wasn't meaning that in the sense that it was a bad set. But of the five basic traditional categories of Magic sets - tribal, multicolor, artifact, weak/unpopular, gimmick/introductory - that seems to be the one that fits it best. Land: one per turn, uncounterable: used to do things usually done in other ways. And Ally is cross-tribal.

Naga
01-13-2010, 11:32 PM
Well, I don't want to put any major unofficial spoilers here, but this is an URL that the poster can follow if he is curious. We don't know anything for sure, but there is a reason to think certain possibilities are more likely.

http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/19978817/Set_names_for_block_after_Zendikar?pg=1

I know about this. What I meant was nothing is for sure.

Fonzy
01-14-2010, 08:56 AM
Someone explain what is going on

http://magiccards.info/scans/en/zen/41.jpg

<clever yugioh reference>

Shadow
01-14-2010, 09:05 AM
I'm pretty sure "clever" and "yugioh" are polar opposites. (I'm so good at this. :()

notallama
01-14-2010, 10:28 AM
http://tehresistance.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/akbar1-749394.jpg
"i have no hair!"

Cara
01-14-2010, 01:22 PM
http://magiccards.info/scans/en/zen/41.jpg

<clever yugioh reference>

Is milling viable yet


Also, Precious Treasure?

Naga
01-14-2010, 06:37 PM
Is milling viable yet


Also, Precious Treasure?

My standard deck is Turbo Fog. There are basically three different Howling Mines in standard, plus Archive Trap.

Naga
01-14-2010, 08:54 PM
oh my god is it viable

Kindof?!

I built it when the format was brand new. It's UWg, while the newer versions just use UW. I'm going to rebuild mine eventually, when I get the cards for it. A very similar deck, UW Control, is very viable, though.

Fonzy
01-14-2010, 10:29 PM
I just like to play obnoxious decks. I play for meta reasons anymore.

That's really the only reason to ever play unless you're gunning for the pt.